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''Spiritual Economics'' by Eric Butterworth like ''Sacred Economics'' by Charles Eisenstein are books that talk changing your thinking to produce a more prosperous life and world. And if you buy their books along with Catherine Ponder's ''The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity'' they will all become more prosperous.  
''Spiritual Economics'' by Eric Butterworth like ''Sacred Economics'' by Charles Eisenstein are books that talk about changing your thinking to produce a more prosperous life or world. And if you buy their books along with Catherine Ponder's ''The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity'' they will all become more prosperous.  


You will only prosper if you understand the ''mysteries of life'' in this universe. While you may find clues to the mysteries of a prosperous life in their books you will not understand those mysteries unless you are willing to see and know the whole truth and provide for it.
You will only prosper if you understand the true ''mysteries of life'' in this universe. While you may find clues to the ''mysteries'' of a ''prosperous'' life in their books you will not understand those mysteries unless you are willing to see and know the whole truth and provide for it.


The problem usually arises when we must include ourselves in our study of the truth. While we are often willing to know the truth about other people, both past and present, we are seldom willing to know the whole truth about ourselves. And to put it bluntly, "There's the rub."
Our problem with understanding those mysteries usually arises when we must include ourselves in our study of or search for the truth. While we are often willing to know the truth about other people and the economic systems they establish for themselves, both past and present, we are seldom willing to know the whole truth about ourselves and our own relationships within those economic paradigms.  


Mary Elizabeth: Croft also wrote ''How I Clobbered Every Bureaucratic Cash confiscation Agency Known to Man'' in which she quoted Sogyal Rinpoche author of ''The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying'' and Dresden James who said, "When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."   
To put it bluntly, "There's the rub."
 
Mary Elizabeth: Croft also wrote ''How I Clobbered Every Bureaucratic Cash Confiscation Agency Known to Man'' in which she quoted Sogyal Rinpoche author of ''The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying'' and Dresden James who said, "When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."   


“Spiritual Economics” is also spoken of as a spiritual science by Dhanesvara Das also known as Don Rousse. He uses the religious terms of the ancient Vedas to explain what he calls "vulture capitalism" and exploitation in this world.  
“Spiritual Economics” is also spoken of as a spiritual science by Dhanesvara Das also known as Don Rousse. He uses the religious terms of the ancient Vedas to explain what he calls "vulture capitalism" and exploitation in this world.  


He does say that "Life's real pleasure is giving and not getting" but that may not be true for if you are getting to have the opportunity of having more to give then both magnify the pleasure as essential elements of life itself.
He does say that "Life's real pleasure is giving and not getting" but that may not be true for if you are getting in order to establish a greater opportunity to give then both getting and giving pursuits may magnify pleasure as essential elements of life itself.
 
Don goes onto say that "our present economic structure has made this natural pleasure so difficult to perform that we see ourselves developing into selfish people." But the truth is the willingness to give is available in every system. The real problem is that we do not see ourselves as becoming a selfish people because we do not want to see the truth about ourselves.
 
Say someone gives five thousand dollars of their earnings to charity but sends their children to public schools. The average cost per student is $10,615 per student. A family with three or four children in school may be costing their neighbor tens of thousands of dollars producing a negative out flow of true charity.


He goes onto say that "our present economic structure has made this natural pleasure so difficult to perform that we see ourselves developing into selfish people." but the truth is we do not see ourselves as becoming a selfish people because we do not want to see the truth about ourselves.
There are no [[Free education|free systems of education]]. They all cost money. The way in which a society chooses to finance the education of their community is not related to the type of money they use but their willingness to justify forcing their neighbor to pay for what they want.
 
The economic system is not the cause of a selfish heart of the people but rather the system is caused or the result of their selfishness. The failure of systems of economics and the systems that tend to fail are the result of a unwillingness of the people to see the truth about themselves. The lack of humility mixed with a desire to prosper or be pleasured at the expense of others is a spiritually bankrupt people and the economic bankruptcy of their economic system is merely a result or symptom of that spiritual bankruptcy.


Christ, John the Baptist, Paul, Peter and many others also promoted the spiritual value and pleasure of giving charity but even giving up our very life for one another as the key to abundance.<Ref>John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Christ, John the Baptist, Paul, Peter and many others also promoted the spiritual value and pleasure of giving charity but even giving up our very life for one another as the key to abundance.<Ref>John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
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In fact it was the jealousy and greed of the systems of Corban established by Herod and Rome that brought Christians in [[Christians conflict|conflict]].
In fact it was the jealousy and greed of the systems of Corban established by Herod and Rome that brought Christians in [[Christians conflict|conflict]].


Writing about the history of money requires us to have a firm grasp of the nature of mankind which again includes ourselves. Charles Eisenstein believes that there were ancient gift economies which eventually morphed, if not evolved, into modern capitalism, suggesting that ''money system has contributed to alienation, competition, and scarcity'' destroying communities and somehow created a need for ''endless growth''.  
When John the Baptist was asked to describe the economic form of the kingdom and how it worked he told people to share what they had.<Ref>Luke 3:11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.</Ref>
 
The key element in John and Jesus' [[Kingdom of God]] was [[Charity|charity]]. Governments will also give you clothing, food, education, health care etc. but none of those benefits are the result of charity. They are the result of force or men pressing you by force to give. This was the big difference between the [[Baptism]] of John and the Baptism  offered by Herod and the Pharisees at that time and was at the core of the [[Christian conflict]] with Rome.
 
It is also the major distinction between those whose faith is acceptable to Christ and those He shuns or even casts out as [[Workers of Iniquity]].
 
== History of selfish money ==
 
 
Writing about the history of money requires us to have a firm grasp of the nature of mankind which again includes ourselves. Charles Eisenstein believes that there were ''ancient gift economies'' which eventually morphed, if not evolved, into modern capitalism, suggesting that the ''money system has contributed to alienation, competition, and scarcity'' destroying communities and somehow created a need for ''endless growth''.
 
Suggesting an eventual collapse he imagines an ''opportunity to transition to a more connected, ecological, and sustainable way of being'' using phrases like ''negative-interest currencies, local currencies are still talking about currencies as a form of money. While "All money is a matter of belief." as stated by Adam Smith all belief is not the same because what the individual believes is heavily dependent upon his willingness to see the truth about himself.


Suggesting an eventual collapse he imagines an ''opportunity to transition to a more connected, ecological, and sustainable way of being'' using phrases like ''negative-interest currencies, local currencies are still talking about currencies as a form of money. While "All money is a matter of belief." as stated by Adam Smith all belief is not the same because the what the individual believes is heavily dependent upon his willingness to see the truth about himself.
We Like to imagine that we are not selfish and are often more than willing to turn a blind eye to our willingness to covet our neighbors sweat and blood for our own benefits. The rulers who covet power who are good and covering up the covetous nature of their political schemes of welfare often accumulate more and more power to the destruction of liberty.
 
Philosophers and historians like [[Polybius]], [[Plutarch]] have written of this process for centuries. The Bible is wrought with these warnings and even Jesus told us not to be like  the [[Benefactors]] who exercise authority one over the other but that is exactly what democracies are designed to do.
 
The type of money a nation is drawn to is the result of spiritual choices and denial but certain types of money will lend themselves to putting people on the fast track of corrupting the next generation if not cursing them all together.


The attempt to standardize money has moved society from a commodity based money based on ''weights and measures''<Ref>Deuteronomy 25:13  Thou shalt not have in thy bag divers weights, a great and a small.
The attempt to standardize money has moved society from a commodity based money based on ''weights and measures''<Ref>Deuteronomy 25:13  Thou shalt not have in thy bag divers weights, a great and a small.
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Proverbs 20:23  Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.</Ref> to a coined money based on the opinion of man in the form of a directive.
Proverbs 20:23  Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.</Ref> to a coined money based on the opinion of man in the form of a directive.


This process often begins with coinage where the kings coins are used for taxes but then progresses to a point where the value of fifteen ounces of silver are labeled as one ounce of gold.<Ref>In 1792, the gold/silver price ratio was fixed by law in the United States at 15:1, which meant that one troy ounce of gold was worth 15 troy ounces of silver; a ratio of 15. The average gold/silver price ratio during the 20th century, however, was 47:1. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_as_an_investment See Silver_as_an_investment]</Ref>
This process often begins with ''coinage'' which is the labeling of a substance with a value rather than a mere weight. This is often done where the kings coins are used for taxes but then may progress to a point where the value of fifteen ounces of silver are labeled as one ounce of gold.<Ref>In 1792, the gold/silver price ratio was fixed by law in the United States at 15:1, which meant that one troy ounce of gold was worth 15 troy ounces of silver; a ratio of 15. The average gold/silver price ratio during the 20th century, however, was 47:1. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_as_an_investment See Silver_as_an_investment]</Ref>
 
This artificial imposition of value is a centralization of power, the power to choose. While wealth is often accumulated, at first through the hard work and thrift of some power is accumulated through the sloth of a many. But that process can be reversed if the many will come together bound by love and charity to serve one another voluntarily rather than be served or protected by a [[Common Purse]] and the men of force.
 


As history continues with men desiring more than they have produced the idea of payment in the future for what we enjoy today began to create other forms of currency such as notes. This idea of obtaining a benefit to day for work produced tomorrow is a evidence of a spiritual choice<Ref>Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: Proverbs 22:26 ¶ Be not thou [one] of them that strike hands, [or] of them that are sureties for debts. </Ref> that moves the individual away from the mysteries of life in this universe and clouds our thinking.
As history continues with men desiring more than they have produced the idea of payment in the future for what we enjoy today began to create other forms of currency such as notes. This idea of obtaining a benefit to day for work produced tomorrow is a evidence of a spiritual choice<Ref>Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: Proverbs 22:26 ¶ Be not thou [one] of them that strike hands, [or] of them that are sureties for debts. </Ref> that moves the individual away from the mysteries of life in this universe and clouds our thinking.

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Spiritual Economics by Eric Butterworth like Sacred Economics by Charles Eisenstein are books that talk about changing your thinking to produce a more prosperous life or world. And if you buy their books along with Catherine Ponder's The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity they will all become more prosperous.

You will only prosper if you understand the true mysteries of life in this universe. While you may find clues to the mysteries of a prosperous life in their books you will not understand those mysteries unless you are willing to see and know the whole truth and provide for it.

Our problem with understanding those mysteries usually arises when we must include ourselves in our study of or search for the truth. While we are often willing to know the truth about other people and the economic systems they establish for themselves, both past and present, we are seldom willing to know the whole truth about ourselves and our own relationships within those economic paradigms.

To put it bluntly, "There's the rub."

Mary Elizabeth: Croft also wrote How I Clobbered Every Bureaucratic Cash Confiscation Agency Known to Man in which she quoted Sogyal Rinpoche author of The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying and Dresden James who said, "When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."

“Spiritual Economics” is also spoken of as a spiritual science by Dhanesvara Das also known as Don Rousse. He uses the religious terms of the ancient Vedas to explain what he calls "vulture capitalism" and exploitation in this world.

He does say that "Life's real pleasure is giving and not getting" but that may not be true for if you are getting in order to establish a greater opportunity to give then both getting and giving pursuits may magnify pleasure as essential elements of life itself.

Don goes onto say that "our present economic structure has made this natural pleasure so difficult to perform that we see ourselves developing into selfish people." But the truth is the willingness to give is available in every system. The real problem is that we do not see ourselves as becoming a selfish people because we do not want to see the truth about ourselves.

Say someone gives five thousand dollars of their earnings to charity but sends their children to public schools. The average cost per student is $10,615 per student. A family with three or four children in school may be costing their neighbor tens of thousands of dollars producing a negative out flow of true charity.

There are no free systems of education. They all cost money. The way in which a society chooses to finance the education of their community is not related to the type of money they use but their willingness to justify forcing their neighbor to pay for what they want.

The economic system is not the cause of a selfish heart of the people but rather the system is caused or the result of their selfishness. The failure of systems of economics and the systems that tend to fail are the result of a unwillingness of the people to see the truth about themselves. The lack of humility mixed with a desire to prosper or be pleasured at the expense of others is a spiritually bankrupt people and the economic bankruptcy of their economic system is merely a result or symptom of that spiritual bankruptcy.

Christ, John the Baptist, Paul, Peter and many others also promoted the spiritual value and pleasure of giving charity but even giving up our very life for one another as the key to abundance.[1]

In fact it was the jealousy and greed of the systems of Corban established by Herod and Rome that brought Christians in conflict.

When John the Baptist was asked to describe the economic form of the kingdom and how it worked he told people to share what they had.[2]

The key element in John and Jesus' Kingdom of God was charity. Governments will also give you clothing, food, education, health care etc. but none of those benefits are the result of charity. They are the result of force or men pressing you by force to give. This was the big difference between the Baptism of John and the Baptism offered by Herod and the Pharisees at that time and was at the core of the Christian conflict with Rome.

It is also the major distinction between those whose faith is acceptable to Christ and those He shuns or even casts out as Workers of Iniquity.

History of selfish money

Writing about the history of money requires us to have a firm grasp of the nature of mankind which again includes ourselves. Charles Eisenstein believes that there were ancient gift economies which eventually morphed, if not evolved, into modern capitalism, suggesting that the money system has contributed to alienation, competition, and scarcity destroying communities and somehow created a need for endless growth.

Suggesting an eventual collapse he imagines an opportunity to transition to a more connected, ecological, and sustainable way of being using phrases like negative-interest currencies, local currencies are still talking about currencies as a form of money. While "All money is a matter of belief." as stated by Adam Smith all belief is not the same because what the individual believes is heavily dependent upon his willingness to see the truth about himself.

We Like to imagine that we are not selfish and are often more than willing to turn a blind eye to our willingness to covet our neighbors sweat and blood for our own benefits. The rulers who covet power who are good and covering up the covetous nature of their political schemes of welfare often accumulate more and more power to the destruction of liberty.

Philosophers and historians like Polybius, Plutarch have written of this process for centuries. The Bible is wrought with these warnings and even Jesus told us not to be like the Benefactors who exercise authority one over the other but that is exactly what democracies are designed to do.

The type of money a nation is drawn to is the result of spiritual choices and denial but certain types of money will lend themselves to putting people on the fast track of corrupting the next generation if not cursing them all together.

The attempt to standardize money has moved society from a commodity based money based on weights and measures[3] to a coined money based on the opinion of man in the form of a directive.

This process often begins with coinage which is the labeling of a substance with a value rather than a mere weight. This is often done where the kings coins are used for taxes but then may progress to a point where the value of fifteen ounces of silver are labeled as one ounce of gold.[4]

This artificial imposition of value is a centralization of power, the power to choose. While wealth is often accumulated, at first through the hard work and thrift of some power is accumulated through the sloth of a many. But that process can be reversed if the many will come together bound by love and charity to serve one another voluntarily rather than be served or protected by a Common Purse and the men of force.


As history continues with men desiring more than they have produced the idea of payment in the future for what we enjoy today began to create other forms of currency such as notes. This idea of obtaining a benefit to day for work produced tomorrow is a evidence of a spiritual choice[5] that moves the individual away from the mysteries of life in this universe and clouds our thinking.

There is something worse than borrowing against tomorrow to obtain a rest or advantage today. That is profiting from the foolishness or mere need of others to borrow. [6]. The only reversal of such greedy profit is to forgive debt.[7]

But Christ was a capitalist not a socialist because God himself was a Capitaolist


The key to Spiritual Economics is forgiveness and giving according to the name of Christ, the character of Jesus and the Father of creation.

This is what we as a nation or people have done:

"Have ye not cast out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron, and the Levites, and have made you priests after the manner of the nations of [other] lands? so that whosoever cometh to consecrate himself with a young bullock and seven rams, [the same] may be a priest of [them that are] no gods." 2 Chronicles 13:9 see context of chapter 13.

This is what we should do:

"But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:" Romans 16:26

But no one seems to know what that obedience of faith looks like.

Partly because they do not know the meaning of Pure Religion.

Your priests, those men who serve the needs of your community and rightly divide the bread from house to house, should be men of service and sacrifice not force and violence like the priests of the government of the World.

The different types of welfare in the early days of Christianity set the scene for the Christian conflict

When we have a network of people that are not only taking care of one another but Sacrificing on the Altars of living Stones through a Corban that makes the word of God to effect and making the sacrifice of the Red Heifer in pure Religion instead of Public religion by taking care of our neighbor's true needs then we will balance the account according to the ways and by the grace of Christ and set nations free.

People may become ministers by the testimony of the people who form a Sacred Purpose trust http://www.hisholychurch.org/study/trusts/index.php

Or they may also apply for admission to an order of the Church to become living stones. http://www.hisholychurch.org/ministries/church/orders/index.php

Israel and the early Church along with Abraham and John the Baptist all tended to the Weightier matters by tithing to their ministers according to their service with Freewill offerings.

If people do seek and strive to take back their responsibility to be the benefactors of one another in the obedience of faith by tending to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.


"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.


then they are not responsible enough to form a jury.

If we understood the true roll and methods of government and how welfare types alter society we would understand faith and the ways of our Father in heaven rather than the fathers of the earth.

In a “Kingdom” style trial there is voir dire where jurors are chosen of our peers. But if the accused chooses not to agree to the terms of the trial then they may be accounted already outside the community by choice.

But if they just fear an unfair bias from the community they may appeal to "the cities of refuge" as a sort of appellate court.

Those judges are not professional judges but men who are the best servants of servants of a community bound by charity and hope instead of force and power. Their law is the law of love and liberty.


There are lots of disputes. Some maybe civil or some may be criminal. Court is about making a record of justice and mercy or the lack of it.

"outside the community by choice"

This is an out law from the community and yes 1 Corinthians 5:9 :"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."


"fornicators of this world" is those having relationships with the constitutional orders of the world

The courts are not there to punish the wicked but to provide justice and mercy. If you send people out of our company the "world" will punish the wicked.

But we must first Repent


Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

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  1. John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly. John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
  2. Luke 3:11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.
  3. Deuteronomy 25:13 Thou shalt not have in thy bag divers weights, a great and a small. Proverbs 20:10 Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD. Proverbs 20:23 Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good.
  4. In 1792, the gold/silver price ratio was fixed by law in the United States at 15:1, which meant that one troy ounce of gold was worth 15 troy ounces of silver; a ratio of 15. The average gold/silver price ratio during the 20th century, however, was 47:1. See Silver_as_an_investment
  5. Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: Proverbs 22:26 ¶ Be not thou [one] of them that strike hands, [or] of them that are sureties for debts.
  6. Exodus 22:25 ¶ If thou lend money to [any of] my people [that is] poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.
  7. Deuteronomy 15:2 And this [is] the manner of the release: Every creditor that lendeth [ought] unto his neighbour shall release [it]; he shall not exact [it] of his neighbour, or of his brother; because it is called the LORD’S release. Matthew 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
  8. Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
    Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
    Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.


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