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The original article written by Gregory included: "These people, by a majority vote, chose a single, top-down ruling bishop for thousands and, at the command of a tyrant and his ''Edict of Milan'', were not Christians of [[repent]]ance, although, they may have been baptized with water and fanfare."
The original article written by Gregory included: "These people, by a majority vote, chose a single, top-down ruling bishop for thousands and, at the command of a tyrant and his ''Edict of Milan'', were not Christians of [[repent]]ance, although, they may have been baptized with water and fanfare."


It seems this paragraph is not clearly put forth. Who were not christians of repentance? The ruling bishops for thousands?  
It seems this paragraph is not clearly put forth. Who were not christians of repentance? The ruling bishops for thousands?  


"At the command of a tyrant ...":  I assume this refers to the pope. Does this phrase indicate the pope appointed the bishops? If so, then why does it say the majority vote of the people elected the bishop?
"At the command of a tyrant ...":  I assume this refers to the pope. Does this phrase indicate the pope appointed the bishops? If so, then why does it say the majority vote of the people elected the bishop? ---  Douglas S.


Of course, I agree. The pope and bishops were not real christians. In this discussion, I'm hoping to encourage wording changes which clearly bring forth the intended message. Since I have not read the history regarding the Edict of Milan, I am not much help with editing this paragraph. ---  Douglas S.
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There were men in those early days who were called the [[Patristic]] writers of the Church.
[[Ambrose]] was appointed by Constantine not by other Fathers of the Church. He had been elected by instant Christians who had been converted by Roman command, not by repentance. - - -Gregory
 
I have added several links to the Church Template to help see this distinction between two separate Churches, one of Christ and the other of Rome, also mentioned in the book [[TKC|Thy Kingdom Come]]s.
 
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: Of course, I agree. The pope and bishops were not real christians. In this discussion, I'm hoping to encourage wording changes which clearly bring forth the intended message. Since I have not read the history regarding the Edict of Milan, I am not much help with editing this paragraph. ---  Douglas S.

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This is a useful article.
The original article written by Gregory included: "These people, by a majority vote, chose a single, top-down ruling bishop for thousands and, at the command of a tyrant and his Edict of Milan, were not Christians of repentance, although, they may have been baptized with water and fanfare."
It seems this paragraph is not clearly put forth. Who were not christians of repentance? The ruling bishops for thousands?
"At the command of a tyrant ...": I assume this refers to the pope. Does this phrase indicate the pope appointed the bishops? If so, then why does it say the majority vote of the people elected the bishop? --- Douglas S.

There were men in those early days who were called the Patristic writers of the Church. Ambrose was appointed by Constantine not by other Fathers of the Church. He had been elected by instant Christians who had been converted by Roman command, not by repentance. - - -Gregory

I have added several links to the Church Template to help see this distinction between two separate Churches, one of Christ and the other of Rome, also mentioned in the book Thy Kingdom Comes.

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Of course, I agree. The pope and bishops were not real christians. In this discussion, I'm hoping to encourage wording changes which clearly bring forth the intended message. Since I have not read the history regarding the Edict of Milan, I am not much help with editing this paragraph. --- Douglas S.