Creed of the Apostles

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The Creed of the Apostles or "Apostles' Creed" was titled 'Symbolum Apostolorum.

Apostles' Creed

Reference to an Apostles' Creed appears for the first time in a letter, probably written by Ambrose, from a Council in Milan to Pope Siricius in about 390 AD. "Let them give credit to the Creed of the Apostles, which the Roman Church has always kept and preserved undefiled".

Pope Siricius[1] was elected Bishop of Rome and was the first to issue decretals and would later be called the Pope. His first was the Directa decretal which claimed apostolic origin for clerical celibacy.[2] These Decretals were a departure from the Doctrines of Jesus regarding exercising authority one over the other.

But what existed at that time was not what is now known as the "Apostles' Creed", but a shorter statement of belief that, for instance, did not include the phrase "maker of heaven and earth", a phrase that may have been inserted only in the 7th century.

This illumination from a 13th-century manuscript shows the apostles writing the Creed under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit which of course they never did.

This illumination from a 13th-century manuscript shows the apostles writing the Creed under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, with each of the twelve contributing one of the articles, was already current at that time.

In this 13th-century rubric each of the twelve apostles is supposedly contributing one of the articles which there is no evidence of in any history of the creed.

There appears to be no truth to this made-up story.

The Ambrose who had written Siricius was elected by the voice of the people as bishop of Milan. But these voters were “instant Christians”,[3] formed at the emperor’s command, not by repentance but by government order to be baptized. These just-add-water converts would alter Christianity.

Ambrose was the son of the governor of Gaul and a former high Roman official. He had asked the emperor if he could become Bishop of Milan, and he was granted that right by this self-appointed Bishop of Bishops. Before Ambrose could accept this position, he had to take time to research what Christianity was, for he had no idea. He returned some time later with his own doctrines.

Ambrose who is often listed as Patristics author of this new church and was considered a bishop as an “aristocratic figure”, and he formulated the Church according to the “ways of Rome issuing decrees, edicts, and commands”, rather than serving as a subject, minister, and servant of the people. He also displayed a fierce hatred of women that was carried into the middle ages.

He was intolerant of other religions, and he actually argued in the Roman Senate that all other religions should be stamped out. This seems in direct opposition to the teachings of Jesus. The idea that other religions should be persecuted by Roman force and policy seems to fly in the face of the injustice of the Crucifixion itself.

“Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using; after the commandments and doctrines of men?” Colossians 2:21-22

These people, by a majority vote, chose a single, top-down ruling bishop for thousands and, at the command of a tyrant and his Edict of Milan, were not Christians of repentance, although, they may have been baptized with water and fanfare.

The Milan Church and its hierarchy of authority was established by the spirit and character of Constantine, not by Christ. Much of what we see as the Church today has come down through this tainted religion and apostasy. To understand the Church and its position in the Kingdom of God, we must go back to its origin, which is Christ, not Constantine.

“Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.” 1 Corinthians 7:23

The Early Church was much different than the Modern Christians and their Churches.

While much of what is in the Creed may be true, it is a distraction from what Christ said about being a Doer of the word. The Early Christian and what they did was in Conflict with Rome. Many of the modern Churches preach a way that has more in common with the Corban of the Pharisees that made the word of God to none effect, rather than aligning with the Early Church and its daily ministration.

I know that:

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Matthew 7:7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Nicene Creed

Icon depicting Emperor Constantine, accompanied by his bishops of the First Council of Nicaea (325), holding the Niceno–Constantinopolitan Creed of 381 which is impossible.

Creed used to mean 'I engage'. It was supposed to be a personal profession of your deeply held opinion which provoke you to action. Any official creed of the church should consist only of the words of Christ since the Church was "founded and established by Jesus Christ, to receive, preserve, and propagate his doctrines and ordinances." Where did God grant the right of anyone the authority to impose their opinion on anyone else?

Alexander of Alexandria sought to excommunicate Eusebius as a heretic until Eusebius submitted and agreed to the Nicene Creed at the First Council of Nicea in 325.

The original Nicene Creed was first adopted in 325 at the First Council of Nicaea. At that time, the text ended with the words "We believe in the Holy Spirit", after which various anathemas against Arian propositions were added.

The Second Ecumenical Council held in Constantinople in 381 as a modification of the original Nicene Creed of 325 produced the "Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed" or the "Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed". It also came to be very commonly known simply as the "Nicene Creed". It is the only authoritative ecumenical statement of the Christian faith accepted by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and the major Protestant denominations.

The Creed of the Apostles and Athanasian creeds are not as widely accepted. The Apostles' Creed makes no explicit statements about the divinity of the Son and the Holy Spirit, but, in the view of many who use it, the doctrine is implicit in it.

What about the creed?

Who is to define and explain it?

Is not agreeing on how it is applied an important thing?

We believe that agreeing as to the meaning of the creed is dependent on agreeing with Christ through the Doctrines of Jesus. That is a process that may require mutual rebuke and reproof amongst men and women over a long time. The agreement we seek comes in time as we seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness... The Church is a system in which you may seek the way of Christ.

Joining the Church or a Church does not make your salvation real. Dividing people over their personal opinions concerning the Doctrines of Jesus seems to be against the teachings of Christ. It is joining with Christ in spirit and in truth that we must seek. The Church should never come between the spiritual engagement of that connection to the Holy Spirit sent by Christ through faith.

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Hebrews 11:6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

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  1. Pope Siricius was the Pope from December 384 to his death in 399. Emperor Valentinian II's confirmation of his election stilled any further objections. Presented in various sources as having been the first to bear the title Pontifex Maximus
  2. It complained that clerics (deacons, priests, and bishops) were still living with their wives and having children, thus contravening the Council of Elvira which was only attended by 19 bishops and a few elders. It has been claimed that it produced 36 Canons but only about 21 of them were considered authentic, the rest were added later. Canon 33, enjoining celibacy upon all clerics, married or not, and all who minister at the altars was clearly added later for the purposes of controlling the funds given to Churches.
  3. Instant Christians. Just add water. Baptism with water but no real repentance. "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38