Talk:Spiritual Economics

Spiritual Economics

Sacred Economics traces the history of money from ancient gift economies to modern capitalism, revealing how the money system has contributed to alienation, competition, and scarcity, destroyed community, and necessitated endless growth. Today, these trends have reached their extreme—but in the wake of their collapse, we may find great opportunity to transition to a more connected, ecological, and sustainable way of being.

This book is about how the money system will have to change—and is already changing—to embody this transition. A broadly integrated synthesis of theory, policy, and practice, Sacred Economics explores avant-garde concepts of the New Economics, including negative-interest currencies, local currencies, resource-based economics, gift economies, and the restoration of the commons. Author Charles Eisenstein

The Principles and Process of True Prosperity

“Spiritual Economics” is a cross-disciplinary study combining psychology, economics and the spiritual science of the Vedas to explain why there is vulture capitalism, cut-throat competition, unending economic hardship, exploitation, inequity, and struggle in this world. Spiritual Economics explains why present economic methods can do nothing to solve these problems, reveals the actual source of our economic problems, and explains the only factual solution that can create an economy that serves everyone. Spiritual Economics also explains the origin and solution of our ecological problems.

"Lifes real pleasure is giving and not getting, but our present economic structure has made this natural pleasure so difficult to perform that we see ourselves developing into selfish people. So if we consciously reform the economic system in such a way to produce an environment which promotes the pleasure of giving, naturally this will awaken the spiritual values in the heart of men, ultimately finding fulfillment in giving to Krishna (God), and to all around us." - Dhanesvara Das

Dhanesvara Das (Don Rousse), MS, is a social healer, social economist, spiritual teacher, speaker and monk. He is a father of three wonderful people and the grandfather (so far) of two. His interests include applying Vedic Dharma to current cultural and social issues, especially economic activity, and developing practices that encourage and support the gift economy. Dhanesvara was initiated into the Gaudiya-Vaishnava sampradaya spiritual order 40 years ago, which introduced him to his current way of life. He travels throughout the United States, Europe, India, and the former Soviet Union teaching the methods of living a spiritual life, Spiritual Economics, spiritual psychology, etc. Besides writing for his websites and blogs, he is currently working on his next book “Change the Karma!” aimed at helping protesters worldwide understand the root cause of our global problems.

HOW I CLOBBERED EVERY BUREAUCRATIC CASH-CONFISCATORY AGENCY KNOWN TO MAN Mary Elizabeth: Croft The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying – Sogyal Rinpoche

Truth A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. – Dresden James Each progressive spirit is opposed by a thousand mediocre minds appointed to guard the past. ~ Maurice Maeterlinck Contempt, prior to complete investigation, enslaves men to ignorance. – Dr. John Whitman Ray In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. – George Orwell If you want to make someone angry, tell him a lie; if you want to make him furious, tell him the truth. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident . – Arthur Schopenhauer Philosopher, 1788-1860 As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. – J Billings Don’t confuse your opinion with 55the truth. – Werner Erhard Its a rare person who wants to hear what he doesn’t want to hear. – Dick Cavett The power to fit in with one’s social peers can be irresistible. To a human lemming, the logic behind an opinion doesn’t count as much as the power and popularity behind an opinion. – Norman Livergood? If the truth is that ugly -- which it is -- then we do have to be careful about the way that we tell the truth. But to say somehow that telling the truth should be avoided because people may respond badly to the truth seems bizarre to me. – Chuck Skoro, Deacon, St. Paul's Catholic Church Neo: What truth? Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. That you, like everyone else, was born into bondage... kept inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch – a prison for your mind. Matrix Accept it or reject it; you have to know it. – Mrs. McKay, my grade 11 Geology teacher, RYCI

The key to Spiritual Economics is forgiveness and giving according to the name of Christ, the character of Jesus and the Father of creation.

This is what we as a nation or people have done:

"Have ye not cast out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron, and the Levites, and have made you priests after the manner of the nations of [other] lands? so that whosoever cometh to consecrate himself with a young bullock and seven rams, [the same] may be a priest of [them that are] no gods." 2 Chronicles 13:9 see context of chapter 13.

This is what we should do:

"But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:" Romans 16:26

But no one seems to know what that obedience of faith looks like.

Partly because they do not know the meaning of Pure Religion.

Your priests, those men who serve the needs of your community and rightly divide the bread from house to house, should be men of service and sacrifice not force and violence like the priests of the government of the World.

The different types of welfare in the early days of Christianity set the scene for the Christian conflict

When we have a network of people that are not only taking care of one another but Sacrificing on the Altars of living Stones through a Corban that makes the word of God to effect and making the sacrifice of the Red Heifer in pure Religion instead of Public religion by taking care of our neighbor's true needs then we will balance the account according to the ways and by the grace of Christ and set nations free.

People may become ministers by the testimony of the people who form a Sacred Purpose trust http://www.hisholychurch.org/study/trusts/index.php

Or they may also apply for admission to an order of the Church to become living stones. http://www.hisholychurch.org/ministries/church/orders/index.php

Israel and the early Church along with Abraham and John the Baptist all tended to the Weightier matters by tithing to their ministers according to their service with Freewill offerings.

If people do seek and strive to take back their responsibility to be the benefactors of one another in the obedience of faith by tending to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to provide for the needy of society through the Covetous Practices and the men who call themselves benefactors but who exercise authority one over the other like the socialists do.

The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world of Rome nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on those fathers of the earth through force, fear and fealty who deliver the people back in bondage again like they were in Egypt. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ and have become workers of iniquity.

The Christian conflict with Rome in the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for their free bread but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens as He commanded.

The modern Christians are in need of repentance.

"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.

One of the most important things to do is to become involved in a network of Charitable Practices. Everyone should want to join a Living Network of Love and Charity.

If you think you have a calling to be a Minister of God or you might want to dedicate your life to Christ as an Ordained Minister of His Holy Church, contact us to start the process of discipleship and become the benefactors who exercise only love, NOT authority.^[1]

then they are not responsible enough to form a jury.

If we understood the true roll and methods of government and how welfare types alter society we would understand faith and the ways of our Father in heaven rather than the fathers of the earth.

In a “Kingdom” style trial there is voir dire where jurors are chosen of our peers. But if the accused chooses not to agree to the terms of the trial then they may be accounted already outside the community by choice.

But if they just fear an unfair bias from the community they may appeal to "the cities of refuge" as a sort of appellate court.

Those judges are not professional judges but men who are the best servants of servants of a community bound by charity and hope instead of force and power. Their law is the law of love and liberty.

There are lots of disputes. Some maybe civil or some may be criminal. Court is about making a record of justice and mercy or the lack of it.

"outside the community by choice"

This is an out law from the community and yes 1 Corinthians 5:9 :"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."

"fornicators of this world" is those having relationships with the constitutional orders of the world

The courts are not there to punish the wicked but to provide justice and mercy. If you send people out of our company the "world" will punish the wicked.

But we must first Repent

Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

== Footnotes ==

↑ Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.

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[1] Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.

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