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== Knife to thy throat ==
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Proverbs 23:1  When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee:


2  And '''put a knife to thy throat''', if thou be a man given to appetite.


3  Be not desirous of his dainties: '''for they are deceitful meat'''.
== Knife to thy throat ==
 
4  Labour not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom.
 
5  Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.
 
6  '''Eat thou not the bread''' of him that hath an evil eye, neither desire thou his dainty meats:
 
7  For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
 
8  The morsel which thou hast eaten shalt thou vomit up, and lose thy sweet words.
 
9  '''Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.'''
 
10  Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:
 
== Civic Flesh pots ==
 
Flesh pots and caldrons are equated with social compacts and cities in the Bible.
[[File:cauldron.jpg|right|400px|thumb|one purse|[[One purse#Civic Flesh pots]] This city is the caldron, and we be the flesh]]
 
Exodus 16:3 And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the LORD in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots, [and] when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger.
 
Micah 3:1  And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; [Is it] not for you to know judgment?
 
2  Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
 
3  Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.
 
4  Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
 
5  Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.
 
6  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. {that … : vision: Heb. from a vision } {that … : divine: Heb. from divining }
 
7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
 
8  But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
 
== The City is the caldron ==
 
Ezekiel 11:1 Moreover the spirit lifted me up, and brought me unto the east gate of the LORD’S house, which looketh eastward: and behold at the door of the gate five and twenty men; among whom I saw Jaazaniah the son of Azur, and Pelatiah the son of Benaiah, princes of the people.
 
2  Then said he unto me, Son of man, these are the men that devise mischief, and give wicked counsel in this city:
 
3  Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: '''this city is the caldron''', and we be the flesh. {It is … : or, It is not for us to build houses near }
 
4  Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man.
 
5  And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them.
 
6  Ye have multiplied your slain in this city, and ye have filled the streets thereof with the slain.
 
7  Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Your slain whom ye have laid in the midst of it, they are the flesh, and '''this city is the caldron''': but I will bring you forth out of the midst of it.
 
8  Ye have feared the sword; and I will bring a sword upon you, saith the Lord GOD.
 
9  And I will bring you out of the midst thereof, and deliver you into the hands of strangers, and will execute judgments among you.
 
10  Ye shall fall by the sword; I will judge you in the border of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
 
11  '''This city shall not be your caldron''', neither shall ye be the flesh in the midst thereof; but I will judge you in the border of Israel:
 
12  And ye shall know that I am the LORD: for ye have not walked in my statutes, neither executed my judgments, but have done after the manners of the heathen that are round about you. {for ye … : or, which have not walked }


13  And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?
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Zechariah 14:20  In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots <05518> in the LORD’S house shall be like the bowls before the altar. {bells: or, bridles }
We should never eat at the [[table]] of rulers who [[exercise authority]] one over the other because that practice is clearly [[covet]]ous. Since the rulers  only takes from our neighbors' goods which is one of those deeds of the [[Nicolaitan]] and the error<Ref name="Errorbn">{{Errorbn}}</Ref> of [[Balaam]] that God hates and Jesus told us [[Benefactors|to not be that way.]]
Zechariah 14:21  Yea, every pot <05518> in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.


== Bite one another ==
From the earliest times the power and possession of tyrants have enticed the people with gifts and gratuities. [[Cain]], [[Nimrod]], [[Pharaoh]] and [[Herod]]. Historians like [[Polybius]], philosophers like [[Plutarch]], all the [[prophets]] and [[Apostles]] have been issuing their [[warnings]] the people of [[covet]]ing their benefits of rulers.


If you read way back in Micah they were talking about those who "hate the good, and love the evil". They even supposedly "pluck off their skin", "their flesh from off their bones" and "eat the flesh of my people". <Ref>Micah 3:1  And I said, Hear, I pray you, O heads of Jacob, and ye princes of the house of Israel; Is it not for you to know judgment? 2  Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones; 3  Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.</Ref> They do this and put them in a ''caldron''.


Is the [[Bible]] talking about cannibals?
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Shall they [[Go and cry]] unto the Lord? It goes on to say that God will not hear them when they do cry out. Why?<Ref>Micah 3:4  Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.</Ref>  
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| [[Proverbs 23]]:1  When thou sittest to eat with [[Benefactors|a ruler]], consider diligently what [is] before thee:
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| 2  And '''put a [[knife]] to thy throat''', if thou be a man given to [[appetite]].
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| 3  Be not desirous of his dainties: '''for they are deceitful meat'''.<Ref>These "deceitful meats" provide at the [[tables]] of rulers are a metaphor for the [[welfare]] that was a [[snare]]  spoken of in the [[Bible]] by David and Paul. The ''gifts, gratuities and [[benefits]]'' we were warned about by [[Plutarch]] who said that benefaction from rulers would ''ruin the people'' and ''destroy liberty''.</Ref>
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| 4 Labour not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom.
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| 5  Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.
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| 6  '''[[Bread and circuses|Eat thou not the bread]]''' of him that hath an [[Idolatry|evil eye]], neither desire thou his dainty meats:
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| 7  For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.<Ref>These [[dainties]] are [[Instrumentum regni]]  of rulers.</Ref>
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| 8  The morsel which thou hast eaten shalt thou vomit up, and lose thy sweet words.
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| 9  '''Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words''' but the [[fool]] will not [[hear]].
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| 10  Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the [[Fathers|fields of the fatherless]]:<Ref> The Fatherless are those who make the state their [[Fathers]] and Christ did warn us of the same concerning the [[Fathers]] of the earth.</Ref>
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They talk about people biting one another<Ref>Micah 3:5 Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.</Ref> and goes on to tell you that you wont be able to see clearly like when Christ warned the Pharisees that he would take sight from them.<Ref>Micah 3:6  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.</Ref>
Both David and Paul warned<Ref name="pdtable">[[Psalms 69]]:22 "Let their [[table]] <[[07979]]> become a [[snare]] before them: and [that which should have been] for [their] [[welfare]], [let it become] a trap."
:  [[Romans 11]]:9  "And David saith, Let their [[table]]<[[5132]]> be made a [[snare]], and a trap, and a [[stumblingblock]], and a recompence unto them:"</Ref> us that those [[table]]s, which were [[welfare]] systems of [[legal charity]] like the [[Corban]] of the [[Pharisees]] are a [[snare]] because, as Peter said such [[covetous practices]] makes the people [[merchandise]] and will [[curse children]].


Those who should warn you will fail to do so and God will raise new shepherds who will warn those who will hear.<Ref>Micah 3:7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
Having a desire for the [[dainties]], [[benefits]], and [[welfare]] of these rulers who call themselves [[benefactors]] is having an [[appetite]] for what the Bible calls the [[wages of unrighteousness]].
8  But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.</Ref>


Again in Habakkuk we see reference to this idea of biting one another and you shall be booty which is to say a spoil or [[Surety|surety]] or even [[Merchandise]].<Ref>Habakkuk 2:6 Shall not all these take up a parable against him, and a taunting proverb against him, and say, Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long? and to him that ladeth himself with thick clay! 7  Shall they not rise up suddenly that shall bite thee, and awake that shall vex thee, and thou shalt be for booties unto them?</Ref> This will come about because you have done the same to many nations<Ref>Habakkuk 2:8  Because thou hast spoiled many nations, all the remnant of the people shall spoil thee; because of men’s blood, and for the violence of the land, of the city, and of all that dwell therein.</Ref>
The [[modern Church]] tells the people in their own wisdom<Ref>[[Proverbs 3]]:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
: [[Proverbs 12]]:15  The way of a fool [is] right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel [is] wise.
: [[Isaiah 5]]:21  Woe unto [them that are] wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!</Ref> that is okay to desire that [[welfare]] provided by the [[unrighteous mammon]] but Jesus said it is not to be [[The Way|that way]] with us.


This is in accord with as you judge so shall ye be judged and sow the wind reap the whirlwind<Ref>Hosea 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up.</Ref> precept of the [[Bible]].
Verse 6 of [[Proverbs 23]] tells us not to eat the [[free bread|bread]] nor even desire those [[benefits]] that are sweat in the mouth but sour in the belly of those who [[covet]] their neighbor's goods through deceit. That sourness will ''cause us to vomit it up''.
And this warning of woe is also related to covetousness<Ref>Habakkuk 2:9  Woe to him that coveteth an evil covetousness to his house, that he may set his nest on high, that he may be delivered from the power of evil!
10  Thou hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul.
11  For the stone shall cry out of the wall, and the beam out of the timber shall answer it.</Ref>


And then warns again that if you build a city or government that takes the blood of your neighbor through [[Covetous|covetousness]] that you are workers of iniquity.<Ref>Habakkuk 2:12  Woe to him that buildeth a town with blood, and stablisheth a city by iniquity!</Ref>
We should not listen to the [[modern Church]] and its [[false religion]] nor eat the feast<Ref>[[Amos 5]]:21, [[Amos 8]]:10, [[Nahum 1]]:15.</Ref> provided by those [[covetous practices]]. People today have need of the "[[baptism]] of [[repentance]]" if they desire the "[[remission]] of [[sin]]".


Even in the New Testament we see this idea that we are called to liberty which requires love but if we bite one another that we will also be devoured.<Ref>Galatians 5:13  For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
It was the [[freewill offerings]] and the [[charity]] of [[Israel]], the [[early Church]] and America in the beginning which made the people strong, not the [[legal charity]] of [[socialism]].
14  For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
15  But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
16  This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17  For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18  But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.</Ref>

Latest revision as of 13:44, 5 March 2024


Knife to thy throat


We should never eat at the table of rulers who exercise authority one over the other because that practice is clearly covetous. Since the rulers only takes from our neighbors' goods which is one of those deeds of the Nicolaitan and the error[1] of Balaam that God hates and Jesus told us to not be that way.

From the earliest times the power and possession of tyrants have enticed the people with gifts and gratuities. Cain, Nimrod, Pharaoh and Herod. Historians like Polybius, philosophers like Plutarch, all the prophets and Apostles have been issuing their warnings the people of coveting their benefits of rulers.


Comments
Proverbs 23:1 When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what [is] before thee:
2 And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite.
3 Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat.[2]
4 Labour not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom.
5 Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.
6 Eat thou not the bread of him that hath an evil eye, neither desire thou his dainty meats:
7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.[3]
8 The morsel which thou hast eaten shalt thou vomit up, and lose thy sweet words.
9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words but the fool will not hear.
10 Remove not the old landmark; and enter not into the fields of the fatherless:[4]

Both David and Paul warned[5] us that those tables, which were welfare systems of legal charity like the Corban of the Pharisees are a snare because, as Peter said such covetous practices makes the people merchandise and will curse children.

Having a desire for the dainties, benefits, and welfare of these rulers who call themselves benefactors is having an appetite for what the Bible calls the wages of unrighteousness.

The modern Church tells the people in their own wisdom[6] that is okay to desire that welfare provided by the unrighteous mammon but Jesus said it is not to be that way with us.

Verse 6 of Proverbs 23 tells us not to eat the bread nor even desire those benefits that are sweat in the mouth but sour in the belly of those who covet their neighbor's goods through deceit. That sourness will cause us to vomit it up.

We should not listen to the modern Church and its false religion nor eat the feast[7] provided by those covetous practices. People today have need of the "baptism of repentance" if they desire the "remission of sin".

It was the freewill offerings and the charity of Israel, the early Church and America in the beginning which made the people strong, not the legal charity of socialism.

  1. The way of error
    2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
    Jude 1:11 "Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12 These are spots(not "unspotted" like Pure Religion) in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;"
    Revelation 2:14-17 "But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication ("to permit one’s self to be drawn away by another into idolatry"). 15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. 16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth [it]."
    Ezekiel 16:49 "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."
  2. These "deceitful meats" provide at the tables of rulers are a metaphor for the welfare that was a snare spoken of in the Bible by David and Paul. The gifts, gratuities and benefits we were warned about by Plutarch who said that benefaction from rulers would ruin the people and destroy liberty.
  3. These dainties are Instrumentum regni of rulers.
  4. The Fatherless are those who make the state their Fathers and Christ did warn us of the same concerning the Fathers of the earth.
  5. Psalms 69:22 "Let their table <07979> become a snare before them: and [that which should have been] for [their] welfare, [let it become] a trap."
    Romans 11:9 "And David saith, Let their table<5132> be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:"
  6. Proverbs 3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
    Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool [is] right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel [is] wise.
    Isaiah 5:21 Woe unto [them that are] wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
  7. Amos 5:21, Amos 8:10, Nahum 1:15.