Talk:Milk and meat

Comments

Questions

Exodus 22:29-30 The word delay is from אָחַר‎ ‘achar but appears as with an additional Tav as תְאַחֵ֑ר ṯəaḥêr which we also see in Moses' Deuteronomy 23:21 which is about being slack in giving what you should give to the LORD rather than a time limit.

If these sacrifices are funding a national social safety net through freewill offerings then at 8 days there will be little value to the needy and only benefit to you because you may be able to take the milk from the mother who is no longer sucking its young.

If we look at Leviticus 22:27 we may dedicate the ownership anytime after the eighth day some thing may be sacrificed to the LORD. These verses may help provide an understanding of the intent of Exodus 23:19, Exodus 34:26, and Deuteronomy 14:21.

[1]

Milk and meat are metaphors in both the Old and New Testaments.

A diet of milk only may keep people from comprehending the true doctrine of God.

The doctrines of God are right reason like the Doctrine of Jesus bacause they consist of "precept upon precept".

The word "precept" is from tsav which often is said to usually mean ::command, ordinance and is from tsawvh meaning command or order, even charge, enjoin, or appoint. It can have the natural sense of the cause and effect of the Law of Nature.

Nature's God is the divine creator who expresses the right reason behind that creation to His people "with stammering lips and another tongue" not everyone can hear. nor see because when the flee the light of God and his revelation we will sit name= darkness.

In Isaiah 58 we are told about a diet of true fasting that brings light where there was darkness.

To find that light requires us to cry out in humility so that we delight to know the way of righteousness.

To see again takes a special kind of fasting.

You will willing fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickednes.

The fist of wickedness is the works of iniquity which is the force used by men who exercise authority one over the other and claim to be the benefactors of the people

The purpose of that fast is not so you will be heard upon high but so that you will learn to hear the cries of others.

---

This other form of fasting will bring light as we learn the Way of fervent charity rather than the reward of unrighteousness which the legal charity of Nimrod, ©ain, Pharaoh Herod, Caesar, FDR, and LBJ, etc..

Isaiah 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity; 10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday: 11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not. 12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. 13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: 14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

The truth is often given those who will hear in bits and pieces because it is commonly to much to recieve at one time.

We as children of God often begin with milk but that is always so that we are not broken or snared nor taken back into bondage.

When mankind ate of the tree of knowledge rather than the tree of life things changed.

People's eyes were opened but they saw less, the metaphor of the two Trees is about our neglect of the tree of life and the revelation of God and in pride choosing to decide for ourselves what was good or evil.

The Ten Statements we call the Ten Commandments are only laws because they are explaining the precept upon precepts built into creation. If we only indulge in the milk we will not see and understand the wisdom of God and His precepts.

"I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are ye able." 1 Corinthians 3:2

We may get lots of people coming to the network.

We have many lurkers who want to take the people and gather them to themselves.

PCMs and MOREs should be working to gather people for kingdom purposes.

But should we do it on the groups or privately?

And then what do we say to them?

Where are they at in their journey?

What are they looking for milk or meat?

What are they ready for?

God knows and we need to listen to Him to know what to say and when to say it.

This is often very difficult to say or know.

Hebrews 5:12 "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat."

Hebrews 5:13 "For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."

If you need help:

Or want to help others:

Join The Living Network of The Companies of Ten
The Living Network | Join Local group | About | Purpose | Guidelines | Network Removal
Contact Minister | Fractal Network | Audacity of Hope | Network Links

Religion was about a social safety net of societies. Civil religion was a snare but Pure Religion sets the captive free. The welfare system of many city states had a tendency to weaken the poor. The Corban of Herod and the Pharisees did that at the time of John the Baptist and Jesus.

In reading Exodus 23:19 some will say that any mixture of meat and milk is forbidden, but others say the reason for this statement about not cooking a kid in its own mother's milk is because it is a form of cruelty to the goat or ewe.

Sam Harris while debating Jordan Peterson about the value or even the evil in scripture, he made a feeble attempt to discredit the Bible with the ignorant statement that, "A goat is a goat, is a goat." In the Bible a goat is not always a goat.

If we only look at the context of this verse within the chapter it is difficult to even imagine that suddenly Moses is adding a food law in the middle of this chapter. Part of the problem is that people do not really grasp the function of priests in society and the purpose and functions of the Altars of clay and stone.

But it is not about the milk or the goat.

It is about love and righteousness.

Just as covetousness is idolatry we can also see that what is some times called "the milk of human kindness" can ruin the tough love required for a free society because it cooks the value of "tough love" which is the righteous meat of Christ's Gospel of the kingdom.

In Exodus 23:3 and in Leviticus 19:15 we are told "thou shalt not respect the person of the poor in his cause."

This same Hebrew text seen in Exodus 23:3 and in Leviticus 19:15 shows לֹ֥א תֶהְדַּ֖ר "lo ṯehdar" which means "You shall not show partiality" of the poor. This is why in Exodus 23:19 we see the prohibition of boiling meat in milk of a goat because to much automatic giving which is seen in systems of entitlements weakens the poor.

Examine what the sin of Sodom was all about and why free bread ruined the people of Rome and how it degenerates the masses because it is boiling meat and milk.

While the welfare system of a free nation nation has elements of the Macro it must begin in the Micro of the individual and their family. Charity, what Jesus calls love, begins at home but we are also told that to spare the rod spoils the child. Understanding why you do not boil meat in milk is why you do not spare the rod.

The legal charity of the social welfare of the exercising authority of the state which through covetous practices and the force of systems entitlements boil the righteousness in the virtue signaling of the milk of human kindness.

It is not a food law but a metaphor and an allegory like the prohibition against biting one another, a common purse or the cities of blood which are a cauldron of flesh.

Exodus 23:14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year.

15 Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:)

16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, [which is] in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.

17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD.

18 Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leavened bread; neither shall the fat of my sacrifice remain until the morning.

19 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother’s milk.

20 ¶ Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name [is] in him.

22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.