No Devils and Demons

Some people try to say that there are no devils and demons and that what some people call possession is only mental illness. They even try to say that all Jesus was doing was healing the sick and not casting out demons too.

Sheldon Emry argued with the notion that some guy named Satan had sex with Eve... He did not believe that and I do not suggest that it is true but it is an Christian identity idea and Shelden was Christian identity which suggests that Angloe Saxons are the true Israelites.

Galatians 3:8-11 "And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith."

I do not believe in "demons" and "devils" and that "satan" is a fallen "angel" in the way most speak of it today. I do not believe in kangaroos either but they exist.

I do not even know if a "guy" has the name of Satan which means adversary.

I see no real kingdom message coming from Sheldon. He was oblivious to kingdom principle and preached for the most part from the tree of knowledge for profit. There was no real promotion of the kingdom or daily ministration in a way we see the early Church doing.

The same with Pete Peters.

I read pastor Bob Hallstrom and his "Satan Among us" book,,, He did try to stay away from Benefits from Benefactors of the World and the Fathers of the earth etc but even he seemed to miss the simple idea of a Daily ministration. I knew some of these guys. Bob would always stay with us when passing through.

Some where nice guys despite their bigotry and delusion.

I see no understanding of the gospel from smooth talking preachers who get rich without real service.

I believe there are more than this visible and tangible realm. Their are other realms parallel to this one we feel and touch. Which I have shared concerning Quantum and the Mysteries of the Universe

There are other entities from those realms that are around and influence things here in a limited way. We do not need these entities to produce evil. There are plenty of earthly evil entities we call men who are the adversaries of righteousness.

That does not mean that the others realms and entities do not exist. The other realms would seem tangible if you are there and most of the entities in them are just as unaware of this realm as many here are unaware of their realm.

But some entities are inter-dimensional, They do have power in both realms but not always jurisdiction. But people can give them jurisdiction ....

Jesus Christ was inter-dimensional and could go in and out all realms with power and jurisdiction. I do not believe these things because I read it in a book but because I have had to deal with these entities etc in this dimension in real time and in real people.

Only some "demons" or "devils" can enter this dimension but when they do their physical form can enter act with our own in some ways. They come in many forms and some look like us. Most of their influence though is more subtle because there are good entities that prevent overt influence.

But the more your heart conforms to their heart the more power and influence over you they may have. This is why you should seek the kingdom and conform to God's righteousness. This is no different than good and bad men or women who influence people here today. It is simply that the race of man is not the only race whether you want to call them angels or Nephilim or giants or sons of God. Nor is the realm we see and live in the only realm.

None of this changes Mark 7:15 "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man." Nor does it change James 1:14 "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed."

Just as anyone can fall amongst bad company that will cause you to stumble all the company is not exclusively mankind.

Why do you think that Paul tells you "from such turn away"?

We can be tempted and enticed or beguiled from the Greek word <deleazo>which is why we are told in Peter using the same word in the Greek:

2 Peter 2:14 "Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling <deleazo> unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:"

2 Peter 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure <deleazo> through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

Even though the unstable souls may be beguiled they are still drawn by their own lust and Wantonness. It is that lust within them that brings sin.

We may also be drawn by the love of God and one another if we will attend to the weightier matters and Pure religion.

again I know there are realms and entities in adjacent dimensions not because I read it in a book. But no one should believe that because I said it.

Christ builds His kingdom upon individual revelation not by flesh and blood.

You do not need to believe that but now you should not be to surprised if you see the evil manifested.

Learn the basics of the Gospel of the Kingdom, like love and forgiveness and service. The Holy Spirit may reveal the rest.

Mark 5

When asked about Mark 5^[1] they conjure up lame rationals.

So why did the pigs run into the sea and who was asking to not to be tormented?

And why do they have a name to even be inquired by Jesus?

And why does this sickness or mental illness ask not to be sent out of the "region" but into swine.

And so now the swine have a disease "metal illness" that was in the man and now being in the pigs want to kill themselves?

And they say was possessed with the devil from the Greek daimonizomai from daimon which is not a disease and the same term is found in other gospels.

So why did it list in Matthew 4:24 ilness and insanity and possession separately as if they are different things?^[2]

Here they list "possessed with devils" along with "lunatick" and also "divers diseases" as if they are separate things?

And we see in Matthew 8:16 "When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with [his] word, and healed all that were sick:" Those who were "possessed with devils" were not healed but had "spirits" cast out. He did not say "possessed with devils" but were healed but that spirits were cast out.

They did not use lunatic in Matthew 8:28 "And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way."

We see the word in Luke 8:36 "They also which saw [it] told them by what means he that was possessed of the devils was healed."

Ah it says they were healed but wait. the word is not the normal words for heal like therapeuo or iaomai but it is the word sozo which means not healed but made whole and is translated saved almost a hundred times.

The word is even used in John 10:21with people accusing Jesus of being possesed " Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?"

Which brings us to Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Why is Jesus not setting them straight that there is no devils but only mental illness?

That is because there are demons and evil spirits.

To understand more about Demons and regions like Heaven and Hell go to and listen to Quantum and the Strings, Membranes and Veils.

Also see many other links there.

== Footnotes ==

↑ Mark 5:1 ¶ And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. 2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. 5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. 6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. 10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. 11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. 12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. 13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea. 14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. 15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. 16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine. 17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts. 18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him. 19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee. 20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.
↑ Matthew 4:24 "And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them."

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[1] Mark 5:1 ¶ And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. 2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. 5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. 6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. 10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. 11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. 12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. 13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea. 14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. 15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. 16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine. 17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts. 18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him. 19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee. 20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.

[2] Matthew 4:24 "And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them."

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No Devils and Demons

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