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Some people try to say that there are no devils and demons and that what some people call possession is only mental illness. They even try to say that all Jesus was doing was healing the sick and not casting out demons too.

When asked about Mark 5^[1] they conjure up lame rationals.

So why did the pigs run into the sea and who was asking to not to be tormented?

And why do they have a name to even be inquired by Jesus?

And why does this sickness or mental illness ask not to be sent out of the "region" but into swine.

And so now the swine have a disease "metal illness" that was in the man and now being in the pigs want to kill themselves?

And they say was possessed with the devil from the Greek daimonizomai from daimon which is not a disease and the same term is found in other gospels.

So why did it list in Matthew 4:24 ilness and insanity and possession separately as if they are different things?^[2]

Here they list "possessed with devils" along with "lunatick" and also "divers diseases" as if they are separate things?

And we see in Matthew 8:16 "When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with [his] word, and healed all that were sick:" Those who were "possessed with devils" were not healed but had "spirits" cast out. He did not say "possessed with devils" but were healed but that spirits were cast out.

They did not use lunatic in Matthew 8:28 "And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way."

We see the word in Luke 8:36 "They also which saw [it] told them by what means he that was possessed of the devils was healed."

Ah it says they were healed but wait. the word is not the normal words for heal like therapeuo or iaomai but it is the word sozo which means not healed but made whole and is translated saved almost a hundred times.

The word is even used in John 10:21with people accusing Jesus of being possesed " Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?"

Which brings us to Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Why is Jesus not setting them straight that there is no devils but only mental illness?

That is because there are demons and evil spirits.

To understand more about Demons and regions like Heaven and Hell go to and listen to Quantum and the Strings, Membranes and Veils.

Also see many other links there.

== Footnotes ==

↑ Mark 5:1 ¶ And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. 2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. 5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. 6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. 10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. 11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. 12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. 13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea. 14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. 15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. 16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine. 17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts. 18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him. 19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee. 20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.
↑ Matthew 4:24 "And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them."

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[1] Mark 5:1 ¶ And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. 2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. 5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. 6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. 10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. 11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. 12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. 13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea. 14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. 15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. 16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine. 17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts. 18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him. 19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee. 20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.

[2] Matthew 4:24 "And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them."

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 Which brings us to Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
-Why is Jesus not setting them straght that there is no devils but only mental illness?
+Why is Jesus not setting them straight that there is no devils but only mental illness?
 That is because there are demons and evil spirits.
+To understand more about Demons and regions like Heaven and Hell go to and listen to [[Quantum]] and the Strings, Membranes and Veils.
+Also see many other links there.
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