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[[File:Virgins.jpg|300px|thumb|5 [[foolish virgins]] wasted their time and oil and were locked out of the wedding feast? The wise virgins attended to the [[weightier matters]] and had oil for the feast. <Br> What does the oil represent?<Ref name="oil"></Ref><Br>Why did the [[foolish]] virgin run short on oil?<Br>Where or how or what do they do to get more of this ''oil''?
: The goal is the [[kingdom of God]] which requires the [[righteousness]] of God which you can only find through the [[tree of life]] which is the [[Holy Spirit]] as opposed to the [[tree of knowledge]] which can produce many other spirits often not so Holy nor righteous. <Br>
People go to denominational churches to get something. They identify that as [[fellowship]].<Br>
What we need is [[fellowship]] with the [[Holy Spirit]]. Then when we gather we will have something to give and share(light from the oil in our lamp) rather than just be looking for something to get.]]


== Turn Away ==
== Turn Away ==


Many people would like to believe that all you have to do is believe, or even just say you believe, and then you are saved, but that would be taking Paul out of the context of Paul and certainly out of the context of Christ.
Many people would like to believe that all you have to do is ''believe'', or even just ''say you believe'', and then you are [[Saved|saved]], but that would be taking Paul out of the context of Paul and certainly out of the context of Christ who said that we had to be doers.<Ref name="doethv">{{doethv}}</Ref>


Paul gives us a long list of activities that are meant to give us a clear idea to reject or shun:
Paul gives us several long list of activities that are meant to give us a clear idea of who to [[Turn away|turn away]] from, reject or shun:


: 2 Timothy 3:1 ¶ This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
: [[2 Timothy 3]]:1 ¶ This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, [[covetous]], boasters, proud, [[Blasphemy|blasphemers]], disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
: 3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
: 3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
: 4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
: 4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
: 5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
: 5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such [[turn away]].
: 6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
: 6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers [[lust]]s,
: 7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
: 7  Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
: 8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
: 8  Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood [[Moses]], so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, [[reprobate]] concerning the [[faith]].
: 9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
: 9  But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.


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Paul goes on and makes a distinction about those whom he counts as the congregation of Christ.  
Paul goes on and makes a distinction about those whom he counts as the congregation of Christ.  


: 2 Timothy 3:10 ¶ But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11  Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
: [[2 Timothy 3]]:10 ¶ But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, [[4286|purpose]], [[faith]], longsuffering, [[charity]], [[5281|patience]], 11  [[Persecution]]s, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
: 12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
: 12  Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
: 13  But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
: 13  But [[evil]] men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
: 14  But continue<Ref> 3306 ~μένω~ meno \@men’-o\@ a root word; v AV-abide 61, remain 16, dwell 15, continue 11, tarry 9, endure 3, misc 5; 120 1) to remain, abide    2) to wait for, await one </Ref> thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
: 14  But continue<Ref>{{3306}}</Ref> thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;


Many say they know and believe in Christ, but He is clear in Luke 13:27 "But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] workers of iniquity."
Many say they know and believe in Christ, but He is clear in [[Luke 13]]:27 "But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] [[workers of iniquity]]."


Over and over we are reminded by Christ, and therefore know that Paul, preaching Christ first, must have said the same:
Over and over we are reminded by Christ, and therefore know that Paul, preaching Christ first, must have said the same:


: Matthew 13:41 "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42  And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
: Matthew 13:41 "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42  And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."


We were to be [[Doers of the Word|Doers]] of the word and not hearers only. And though many will say, "Lord, Lord" and saying that they believe, it will be by their works that we will know them.
We were to be [[Doers of the Word|Doers]] of the word and not hearers only. And though many will say, "Lord, Lord"<Ref>{{lord lord}}</Ref> and saying that they believe, it will be by their works that we will know them.


So who are true believers with real faith, and who are the ungodly and unrighteous of men?
[[Matthew 24]]:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.


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So who are the true [[believer]]s with real [[faith]], and who are the ungodly and unrighteous of men?


== How do we know ==
== How do we know ==
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Paul goes to great lengths to give us lists of characteristics you will not find in the people that truly believe.
Paul goes to great lengths to give us lists of characteristics you will not find in the people that truly believe.


: Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. 20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."
: Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. 20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. 24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26  For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31  Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."


If saying you believe was all that was truly required, why does Paul go into detail about things like:
If saying you believe was all that was truly required, why does Paul go into detail about things like:


: Romans 13:7 "Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. 8  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
: Romans 13:7 "Render therefore to all their dues: [[tribute]] to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. 8  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit [[adultery]], Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not [[covet]]; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt [[love]] thy neighbour as thyself. 10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


So if you really love Jesus, then you will work no ill against him. You will [[Keep the Commandments]].
So if you really love Jesus, then you will work no ill against him. You will [[Keep the Commandments]].

Latest revision as of 17:49, 8 April 2024

5 foolish virgins wasted their time and oil and were locked out of the wedding feast? The wise virgins attended to the weightier matters and had oil for the feast.
What does the oil represent?[1]
Why did the foolish virgin run short on oil?
Where or how or what do they do to get more of this oil?  : The goal is the kingdom of God which requires the righteousness of God which you can only find through the tree of life which is the Holy Spirit as opposed to the tree of knowledge which can produce many other spirits often not so Holy nor righteous.
People go to denominational churches to get something. They identify that as fellowship.
What we need is fellowship with the Holy Spirit. Then when we gather we will have something to give and share(light from the oil in our lamp) rather than just be looking for something to get.


Turn Away

Many people would like to believe that all you have to do is believe, or even just say you believe, and then you are saved, but that would be taking Paul out of the context of Paul and certainly out of the context of Christ who said that we had to be doers.[2]

Paul gives us several long list of activities that are meant to give us a clear idea of who to turn away from, reject or shun:

2 Timothy 3:1 ¶ This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.


Paul goes on and makes a distinction about those whom he counts as the congregation of Christ.

2 Timothy 3:10 ¶ But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue[3] thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

Many say they know and believe in Christ, but He is clear in Luke 13:27 "But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all [ye] workers of iniquity."

Over and over we are reminded by Christ, and therefore know that Paul, preaching Christ first, must have said the same:

Matthew 13:41 "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

We were to be Doers of the word and not hearers only. And though many will say, "Lord, Lord"[4] and saying that they believe, it will be by their works that we will know them.

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

So who are the true believers with real faith, and who are the ungodly and unrighteous of men?

How do we know

Paul goes to great lengths to give us lists of characteristics you will not find in the people that truly believe.

Romans 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

If saying you believe was all that was truly required, why does Paul go into detail about things like:

Romans 13:7 "Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. 8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if [there be] any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

So if you really love Jesus, then you will work no ill against him. You will Keep the Commandments.

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  2. Doers and not doers
    Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:"
    Matthew 25:11 "Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us." See Foolish virgins and Workers of iniquity.
    Luke 6:46 "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great."
    Luke 13:25 "When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:" See Workers of iniquity.
    John 3:19 "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." See Born again.
    John 9:31 "Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth."
  3. 3306 ~μένω~ meno \@men’-o\@ a root word; v AV-abide 61, remain 16, dwell 15, continue 11, tarry 9, endure 3, misc 5; 120
    1) to remain, abide
    1a) in reference to place
    1a1) to sojourn, tarry
    1a2) not to depart
    1a2a) to continue to be present
    1a2b) to be held, kept, continually
    1b) in reference to time
    1b1) to continue to be, not to perish, to last, endure
    1b1a) of persons, to survive, live
    1c) in reference to state or condition
    1c1) to remain as one, not to become another or different
    2) to wait for, await one
  4. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Matthew 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
    Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: