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== Fraud ==
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Who are you kidding?
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After an exchange on the PA [http://thelivingnetwork.org/ group] where someone wants to cry fraud on behalf of the Churches who have become strictly regulated by the government because they chose to file a 1023 or maybe extending that cry of fraud to the bondage of the world.
 
After an exchange on the PA [http://thelivingnetwork.org/ group] where someone wants to cry fraud on behalf of the Churches who have become strictly regulated by the government because they chose to file a 1023 or maybe extending that cry of fraud to the bondage of the world.
  
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First off these Churches have not  been what the Church was meant to be from the beginning for a long time.
 
First off these Churches have not  been what the Church was meant to be from the beginning for a long time.
  
Just as an example:
 
  
What Church has not relegated its responsibility to care for the needy of its society to the government?
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== Examples ==
  
What Church calls no man on earth Father?
 
  
What Church preaches to make no covenant, take no oath pray for no benefit from men who call themselves benefactors but exercise authority so as to keep the people free?
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What Church has not relegated its responsibility to care for the needy of its society to the government? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/coercivechurch.php
  
What Church teaches the people not to covet their neighbors goods so that they do not become merchandise?
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What Church calls no man on earth Father? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/fatherabba.php
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What Church preaches to make no covenant, take no oath pray for no benefit from men who call themselves benefactors but exercise authority so as to keep the people free? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/healland.php
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What Church teaches the people not to covet their neighbors goods so that they do not become merchandise? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/mark2.php
  
 
What Church actually explains what it looks like to love your neighbor as yourselves so that all will remain free?
 
What Church actually explains what it looks like to love your neighbor as yourselves so that all will remain free?
  
What Churches preaches the kingdom of heaven is at hand and you should be seeking the righteousness of God and not the Corban of the Pharisees?
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What Churches preaches the kingdom of heaven is at hand and you should be seeking the righteousness of God and not the Corban of the Pharisees? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/corban.php
 
   
 
   
 
Some pastors have been deceived and the people too but it is by false doctrines that have crept into the modern Church.
 
Some pastors have been deceived and the people too but it is by false doctrines that have crept into the modern Church.
 
   
 
   
 
If the churches were doing their job the people might not have become collateral for debt.
 
If the churches were doing their job the people might not have become collateral for debt.
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[By the way collateral does not have the power to rescind.]
 
[By the way collateral does not have the power to rescind.]
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While the Church was appointed by Christ  it has no power to "exercise authority one over the other".  
 
While the Church was appointed by Christ  it has no power to "exercise authority one over the other".  
  

Revision as of 23:21, 16 September 2013

Fraud

Who are you kidding?

After an exchange on the PA group where someone wants to cry fraud on behalf of the Churches who have become strictly regulated by the government because they chose to file a 1023 or maybe extending that cry of fraud to the bondage of the world.

If you do not know what bondage ask on the network. Text http://www.hisholychurch.org/study/gods/cog4eve.php

They refer to the churches as an "innocent party" or maybe it is the people he imagines to be innocent.

We are not placing fault on an "innocent party". We are placing fault on the slothful party, the apostate party, and the foolish party.

The government spends millions of dollars publishing exactly what it is doing.

In the case of the Churches:

Even on the instruction of the 1023 form itself it states Churches do not have to file this document. It has other publications that state the advantage and disadvantages including becoming "strictly regulated" if you file a 1023. It state this again in official publications which David mention like 1828 and makes all that information available for free. http://www.hisholychurch.org/study/gods/cog15bvb.php

So where on earth could anyone claim that the government defrauded the Church at all?

It is a delusion to imagine that it is not the Churches fault and leads to more error to continue to cling to fallacy.

First off these Churches have not been what the Church was meant to be from the beginning for a long time.


Examples

What Church has not relegated its responsibility to care for the needy of its society to the government? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/coercivechurch.php

What Church calls no man on earth Father? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/fatherabba.php

What Church preaches to make no covenant, take no oath pray for no benefit from men who call themselves benefactors but exercise authority so as to keep the people free? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/healland.php

What Church teaches the people not to covet their neighbors goods so that they do not become merchandise? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/mark2.php

What Church actually explains what it looks like to love your neighbor as yourselves so that all will remain free?

What Churches preaches the kingdom of heaven is at hand and you should be seeking the righteousness of God and not the Corban of the Pharisees? http://www.hisholychurch.org/sermon/corban.php

Some pastors have been deceived and the people too but it is by false doctrines that have crept into the modern Church.

If the churches were doing their job the people might not have become collateral for debt.

[By the way collateral does not have the power to rescind.]

While the Church was appointed by Christ it has no power to "exercise authority one over the other".

Christ forbid it. Any Church that does is not His Church.

Policing the purity of the Church fulfilling its duties is the responsibility of the people.

That is right.

It is as much the fault of the people as it is the ministers. When the people rejected the ways of God they got the pastors they deserved.

Covetousness, vanity and sloth brought them into bondage not fraud.

If a minster stop doing what Christ said to do and steps beyond his appointment he stops being His Church.

The people have elected to contribute to ministers who have delivered them into bondage and failed to serve as Christ said.

Why because they want their ears tickles. Because they go to church to feel good, feel justified, feel saved.

They do not practice what pure religion is. If you do not know ask on the network.

The Minster may be an apostate but the people are to blame for the fact there is no or very very few churches or ministers teaching what Christ said.


I know BAH who wrote about the innocent party and also talked of rescinding document to free the individual. I also know Peter Kershaw at hushmoney who use to call me and talk for hours and ask questions.

Following the path of rescinding documents and memberships in social welfare programs that are in debt is a foolish course to take and not the course of Moses or Christ. We should be seeking the kingdom by setting a course that saves others and our children and offers a way and an alternative to the world and not trying to save ourselves with paper work.

We should be found seeking the kingdom of God and his righteousness.

The books are free on the network and every PCM can tell you where to download free copies.

If you want real solutions you have to seek them with others because you car about others because Christ said so.

The governments of the world may be guilty of their own sins but the Churches, their pastors and the people are guilty of their sins of sloth and pride, vanity and avarice and have few excuses to make for their present condition.

People asked why are people gathering in the living network and what should these gatherings and congregations of the network should be doing. If you are not working and striving together with others to create an alternative to the socialism and Corban of the world based on the precepts of Christ then you have not repented and are not following Christ or doing what he said.

Christianity was a solution for the people so they did not have to sell themselves or their children a slave or their neighbors children a slave to the Fathers of the earth and become merchandise and human resources. Do you know who the Fathers of the earth are?

Ask on your local group.

Christianity was a form of government based on the principals of faith, hope and charity and the perfect law of liberty. Christians were people who gathered together to serve because that is gathering in the character or name of Christ.

If you are not doing that with other people then you are not doing what Christ said and certainly not doing it in the name of Christ.

These networks on the Google groups are here so that you can join with others and form a living network of kingdom seekers. We sent out determination letters based on two or more witnesses so that congregations of the people may be free.

If you are not a part of those congregations then you are missing out on the living network.

I know the people at IBT and explained to them the problem. We cover much of that in the link below on cutting muster. They had no argument against what we told them but wanted to keep following bad advise until it was to late.

Those who will not gather together in the kingdom fashion like the early church are classified in the gospel as foolish virgins who Christ would not open the door to.

People asked on the groups what to do when you gather. Start turning around from the ways of the world and take up the ways of Christ.

Start being the kingdom of God.

Start seeking his righteousness by serving one another.

If no one needs help amongst you seek out others in your community and help them as a body and group.

Start looking for the lost sheep that have kingdom tracts such as charity and love, forgiveness and patience...

Start looking for the doors of the word who will gather in Christ's name.

Start building the living temple and altars of God.

We can share with you Christ's plan for free but you have to pursue it, seek it.

If anyone approaches you or emails you and they are not an official PCM or minister of record beware. http://www.preparingyou.com/wiki/All_PCMs

We can help you but we need to know you and you need to know us.

Don't be a lurker.

Seek to learn.

Ask and you shall receive.

Join us http://thelivingnetwork.org/


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