- Some people feel it is necessary for them to dissolve the consequences of the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume... the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them but they often do not want to dissolve the bands that connect them to the benefits of a political society.
- Numerous people deal with law, courts, rights and offer numerous solutions or procedures in dealing with what appears as injustice in the minds of the people. The strategies differ with the views and opinions of men and women like
- LB Bork
- Richard Cornforth
- George Gordon
- Bob Holstrom
- Karl Lentz
- Peymon Mottahedeh
- Mark Passio
- Anna Maria Riezinger
- Larken Rose
- Bob Schulz
- Marc Stevens
- Bill Thornton
- Robert Burk
- Then there the "unknown authors" or those theories with "many authors" or just many names like:
- Steven AKA Steven Americo, James, Mark James
- David Merrill Van Pelt AKA SFBFKADVP
- The Matrix and the U.S. Constitution, supposedly written by an unknown author, is full of facts; but the author literally does not have a leg to stand on.
- UCC Redempton advocates
and many others with a plethora of Guru theories. All of them vary in a variety of critical points but all seem to fall short in their approach if we look at the few success in man's quest for freedom as a society throughout the ages.
Marc Stevens' approach is not “about the law, or about using the legal system to win your case.” It “is not that you will win, nor that you will get the laws changed; the net result is often enough that you will embarrass them so badly that they will dismiss the case simply to get you to go away and stop embarrassing them in front of other victims who are easier to fleece.”
The truth is once they know what you are up to they often move your case to the end of the docket and you will spend more time to get your day in court when there is no one left in court and then the judge will take his vengeance. It even states also on his website “There is no 'winning' (ultimately they have guns and the cages and are perfectly willing to use them).”
Marc has authored two books – the infamous Adventures in Legal Land which used to sell on his website for 25 dollars but it now said to get it on Amazon where I found it for 32 dollars. He wants to share the book with the world to “spread the truth [that he believes] 'governments' are gangs of killers, thieves and liars”. He also wrote the book “Government: Indicted”, which was released in November of 2013.
Marc states on his website that “once attacked by a bureaucrat you’ve already lost; this is to limit the damage they are going to do.” He then offers “Seminars & workshops” for admission like $75 dollars. And the site offers “Phone consultations with Marc. $100 p/hr.”
“The No State Project” mentioned regularly seems to me to be an oxymoron since no matter where we go we are always in one state or another. That “state” may be in the state of bondage or the state of freedom or the state of righteousness. Seeking the Kingdom of God and His righteousness may give us something that appears to be freedom but only according to the ways of God or Jesus who we call the Christ.
A prevalent phrase found on his website is “Bringing about a voluntary society one visitor at a time”.
To be honest I could find nothing that leads me to believe he is bringing about any kind of society other than a forum on his website. There was one person in the forum who was received very well by the group.
Damon: Poster Boy for Cognitive Dissonance pointed out to the people of the forum that “you have made agreements...you use the benefits so you must accept the burden that accompanies such use. You have waived your responsibilities and therefore your rights in hopes of a benefit. It is a covetous practice and keeps people enslaved.”
The followers of Marc know that the meaning of words in court are very important but so did Christ and the early church and the church in the wilderness.
You can be trapped by your words and it is likely you have been;
Proverbs 6:2 warns that “Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth.” and the same thing in Matthew 12:36,37 “But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.”
And in Matthew 15:11 and 18 we see “Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.... But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.” The “Pharisees were offended” by this and Jesus comments about their Corban but the firsts things out of the mouth of John the Baptist was that people should come together in a voluntary society and not use force to take care of the needs of the people.
That is the way the word Religion used to be defined. Religion was how you performed your duty to God which is to love one another and seek righteousness which included your duty to your fellow man. Today religion is supposed to be what you think about God. No one but Damon seemed to want to see that there is no separation of church and state which is really religion and the state. Since the state imposes many of its taxes and fines at least in part to provide for the cost of performing our duty to our fellow man the State and Religion are one.
This takes us back to the idea of signing up for benefits or getting our benefit number which every State offers the people today. Marc talks about “ The nature of government and of tyrants” which is based on force and not the voluntary society of Jesus and John the Baptist and often seems to go about devouring who it wills.
Of course the Bible warns the people that they should not be biting one another or they might be devoured. This of course is what Damon was saying about taking benefits at the expense of your neighbor.
Even having the state take care of your parents is a benefit. Damon points this out in Marc's forum "Cursing your mother and Father is not taking care of them in their old age and not planning for this. Instead people give over their parents (their responsibilities just like the parents did to their children) to the State to care for them at their neighbors expense, again another covetous practice, that is why it is written,"
- Matthew 15:3,6 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
He further explained this to them by saying, "Go to the social security administration (it is a gift). I have already made my sacrifice, let them care for you, I do not have to do any more (like lighten the burden on your neighbor for being compelled to contribute to your parents welfare). This is how one can make the Word of God to non effect. This is exactly what these scriptures here are talking about."
This was referring to what Jesus said about the Corban of the Pharisees making the word of God to none effect. We may have God given rights but if we do not take on the responsibility of those rights then we will make the claim of rights to none effect.
Nobody seemed to want to hear that on Marc's forum and Damon's comments were met with derision and denial. But the truth is easy to see for those who can handle the truth. The corporate state has power and authority because of the sloth and covetousness of the people. If the people judge that it is okay to take from their neighbor to have free education for their children or have the government take care of their parents then the government may have a right to take from the people. Ultimately if we do not take responsibility for ourselves and our families but look instead to the Fathers of the earth then we may have to obey the conscripted fathers or Patronus of the organized State and its world.
We tell people the meaning of words that could be very helpful to them. What we do not do is leave a loaded gun on the side of the road where people who do not know how to use a gun might pick it up and use it in a way that could get them hurt or others.
We are actually telling people where the real bondage comes from so that they can be set free through true repentance. Others will tell you how to counter the results or repercussions of what has brought them into bondage. They are treating the symptom.
We are addressing the cure.
Much of those words like attorney and understand, we address in conversations but person, jurisdiction, common law, natural rights etc we write about all the time.
We share huge amounts of stuff for free that addresses all the things you are concerned about but there is an order to things, Foundation first and build on the rock. Once people realize Christ came to set you free then you can go back and read what he said to do and did and then know that he was bringing the cure not just treating the symptom.
But even he said: Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
- Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
People are going around claiming to be a man with natural rights without addressing their individual history as a person. That is not natural nor is it according to Natural Law. We go into detail about this whole process of making the state your substitute Father and we do so that people can find their way back.
An individual man is comprised of his mental, moral and physical constitution. He is in a state based on his actions or status and his parents Status cannot go unaccounted for. That is because he is a product of the nature of his parents at natural law.
Everyone is responsible for their own sins, and those sins are enough in themselves but we inherit from generation to generation and nothing more. However if we want to inherit the Kingdom of God and those natural rights God endowed us with then we must conform to the character of Christ.
Many in Mac's forum do not want to do that.
Our parents are a part of that ... but if we really repent and minds become as Christ's mind and turn our new minds into actions with forgiveness and sacrifice in humility we will be able to learn the fullness of the Way.
- Ezekiel 18:2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge?
We are born in debt. We inherit that debt and its bondage. But the same place goes onto say.
- Ezekiel 18:3 [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have [occasion] any more to use this proverb in Israel.
But we are not in Israel. It is not a place but a way. It is the place where "God prevails" and that must be in our hearts first.
That is why we congregate ... to get to that state of liberty under God.
We write about things like the Judiciary act of 1789 so that people will under stand how the system works.
- SEC . 11. And be it further enacted, That the circuit courts shall have original cognizance, concurrent with the courts of the several States, of all suits of a civil nature at common law or in equity, where the matter in dispute exceeds, exclusive of costs, the sum or value of five hundred dollars, and the United States are plaintiffs, or petitioners; or an alien is a party, or the suit is between a citizen of the State where the suit is brought, and a citizen of another State.
But who knows what that means... so we write about cognizant, civil nature etc and how we have moved by our actions from common law to equity.
But we do not directly link to that Judiciary act except in articles like the Power to change
But again the cure reaches to the bottom of our souls. What does it take to be Israel the place where God's endowed rights prevail?
Again... These legal and technical terms and gimmicks and are false hope in the long run.It may sell books and set up seminars earning thousands of dollars and get Marc and others Phone consultations at a $100 p/hr but that is not the way we work. We give all freely but we meter our time by spending it on those who care about their neighbor's rights and freedoms as much as their own and demonstrate that caring by coming together in Free Assemblies to attend to the Weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith which include caring for the needs of our neighbors and the widows and orphans of our society through Pure Religion in matters of health, education, and welfare. We are NOT to do so by the Covetous Practices of modern governments.
The Way of Christ was like neither the way of the world nor the governments of the gentiles who depend on benefactors who exercise authority. Christ's ministers and true Christians do not depend upon systems of social welfare that force the contributions of the people like the corban of the Pharisees which made the word of God to none effect. Many people have been deceived to go the way of Balaam and the Nicolaitan and out of The Way of Christ.
The Christian conflict of the first century Church appointed by Christ was because they would not apply to the fathers of the earth for benefits but instead relied upon a voluntary network providing a daily ministration to the needy of society through Faith, Hope, and Charity by way of freewill offerings of the people, for the people, and by the people through the perfect law of liberty in Free Assemblies according to the ancient pattern of Tuns or Tens.
"Follow me!" —Jesus the Christ.
- One of the most important things to do is to become involved in a network of Charitable Practices. Everyone should want to join a Living Network of Love and Charity.
- If you think you have a calling to be a Minister of God or you might want to dedicate your life to Christ as an Ordained Minister of His Holy Church, contact us to start the process of discipleship and become the benefactors who exercise only love, NOT authority.
We offer a more complete strategy which the Christians had as Rome declined and fell but Modern Christians have forgotten.
We share those things with ministers and viable congregations often at great personal expense of our own time and energy and make a plethora of information available for free While we serve the Living Network of congregants and minister servants because we know that freedom is not free..
Christ had the whole answer for those who can handle the whole truth and are willing to provide for it through love of not only those who love them but even for the strangers and are willing to do so in harder times than these ....
- There are meanings to words.
- We should know the different meanings.
The ability to provide and articulate Legal and lawful wrangling can be useful in dealing with the world. But all that may have little or no effect when shift happens. Just like in the trial as we saw with the Christian conflict with Rome.
But why teach those words if people will not repent. We know the slothful should be under tribute.
- Yes it is good not to argue.
- Matthew 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
- And good to be polite
- Matthew 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
- Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
- Matthew 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
- Luke 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
- Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
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- Matthew 20:25-26 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
Mark 10:42-43 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
Luke 22:25-26 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.